Obama v. McCain - The Second Ammendment
The following cited
comments and positions by Barack Obama show a severely restrictive policy
toward gun ownership in the United States and do not reflect a respect for and
an acknowledgment of American Citizens protections and rights under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. In going along with his
theme of sidestepping and misrepresenting his past record and positions Obama’s
website states for following:
Obama has supported
a complete ban on manufacture and sale of all handguns (and lied about it
later) as this video demonstrates:
The record however
demonstrates that Obama blames guns for gun violence, not criminals. Obama has supported hand-gun bans in
various forms, including the Washington DC complete hand gun ban that was
recently overturned by the Supreme Court – of course he flip-flopped on
that one as the following video demonstrates. Obama believes that if you outlaw
private handgun ownership you will eliminate gun violence.
Under Obama’s
logic, Rosie O’Donnell can sue spoon manufactures for making her fat. If we
banned all spoons, people would not get fat anymore. If we carefully regulate the distribution and sale of spoons
and mandate obesity testing for prospective spoon owners, we can eliminate
obesity and lower the burden on our health care system.
John McCain, while
not a gun owner, is a strong supporter of basic second amendment rights with
some “common sense” controls on background checks. McCain fights harder for more severe penalties for criminal
use of guns without restricting law-abiding citizens rights to own firearms.
I double checked
all the facts and highly recommend http://www.ontheissues.org
for a source of quotations and citations on politician’s positions, past and
present.
Obama’s
Positions –
Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws
Q: Is the D.C. law
prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear
arms?
A: As a general
principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear
arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the
state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the
same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can
establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
Q: But do you still
favor the registration & licensing of guns?
A: I think we can provide
common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the
streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can
make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of
handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun
dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the
streets.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on
eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
Obama was being
misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing
a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama
responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I
said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."
Actually, Obama's
writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for
the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois,
had this question, and Obama took hard line:
35. Do you support state
legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture,
sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons?
Yes.
c. mandatory waiting
periods and background checks? Yes.
Obama's campaign said,
"Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer
did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now.
He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some
answers didn't reflect his views."
Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008
Philadelphia primary debate Apr 16, 2008
Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok
Q: You said recently,
"I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." But you support the
D.C. handgun ban, and you've said that it's constitutional. How do you
reconcile those two positions?
A: Because I think we
have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us
to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership
generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for
sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on
the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there
is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal
handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist
in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have
reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second
Amendment and people's traditions.
Source: 2008 Politico pre-Potomac Primary
interview
Feb 11, 2008
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing
Q: When you were in the
state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you
do that as president?
A: I don't think that we
can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense
enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required
to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers.
As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities,
when it comes to guns, in this country. You've got the tradition of lawful gun
ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish,
take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you've got the reality of 34
Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We
can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is
respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start
cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008
2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per
month
Obama sought moderate
gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun
purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people
violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in 2004 to
let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct
30, 2007
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers (only)
Obama voted for a bill
in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry
concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it
was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcing
and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent.
When I queried him about
the vote, he said, "I didn't find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently
on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This
was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police
officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has
previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of
firearms."
It wasn't until a few
weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote.
Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the
Fraternal Order of Police.
Source: From Promise to Power, by David
Mendell, p.250-251 Aug 14, 2007
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities
Q: How would you address
gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American
men?
A: You know, when the
massacre happened at Virginia Tech, I think all of us were grief stricken and
shocked by the carnage. But in this year alone, in Chicago, we've had 34
Chicago public school students gunned down and killed. And for the most part,
there has been silence. We know what to do. We've got to enforce the gun laws
that are on the books. We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers
aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know
they're not made in our communities. There aren't any gun manufacturers here,
right here in the middle of Detroit. But what we also have to do is to make
sure that we change our politics so that we care just as much about those
30-some children in Chicago who've been shot as we do the children in Virginia
Tech. That's a mindset that we have to have in the White House and we don't
have it right now.
Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of
morality
I believe in keeping
guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of
the gun manufacturer’s lobby. But I also believe that when a gang-banger shoots
indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels someone disrespected him, we
have a problem of morality. Not only do we need to punish that man for his
crime, but we need to acknowledge that there's a hole in his heart, one that
government programs alone may not be able to repair.
Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.215 Oct
1, 2006
Renew assault weapons ban
KEYES: [to Obama]: I am
a strong believer in the second amendment. The gun control mentality is
ruthlessly absurd. It suggests that we should pass a law that prevents
law-abiding citizens from carrying weapons. You end up with a situation where
the crooks have all the guns and the law abiding citizens cannot defend
themselves. I guess that's good enough for Senator Obama who voted against the
bill that would have allowed homeowners to defend themselves if their homes
were broken into.
OBAMA: Let's be honest.
Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault
weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell
with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have
only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president
did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.
Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack
Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
Principles that
Obama supports on gun issues:
· Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of
semi-automatic weapons.
· Increase state restrictions on the purchase and
possession of firearms.
· Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks
with firearms.
Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political
Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun
manufacturers.
A bill to prohibit civil
liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers,
distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages,
injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by
others. Voting YES would:
· Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who
knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or
drug-trafficking crime
· Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in
death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
· Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil
liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the
action was brought
· Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery
of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for
violations
· Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and
dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or
safety devices
Reference:
Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005
John McCain’s
Positions -
I know how to use guns; but I don't own one
Q: Tell us about your
gun collection, roughly how many you own, what your favorite make, model and
caliber is, if any of them require a tax stamp?
A: For a long time I
used a lot of guns, including carrying a .45 as a pilot flying in combat over
Vietnam. I know how to use guns. I don't own one now.
Source: 2007 GOP YouTube debate in St. Petersburg, Florida
Nov 28, 2007
Prosecute criminals, not citizens for gun ownership
John McCain believes
that the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is a fundamental,
individual Constitutional right. We have a responsibility to ensure that
criminals who violate the law are prosecuted to the fullest, rather than
restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens. Gun control is a proven failure
in fighting crime. Law abiding citizens should not be asked to give up their
rights because of criminals--criminals who ignore gun control laws anyway.
Source: Campaign website, www.johnmccain.com, "Issues"
Sep 1, 2007
Don't hold gun manufacturers liable for crimes
John McCain opposes
back door attempts to restrict Second Amendment rights by holding gun
manufacturers liable for crimes committed by third parties using a firearm, and
has voted to protect gun manufacturers from such inappropriate liability aimed
at bankrupting the entire gun industry. McCain says, "Neither justice nor
domestic peace are served by holding the innocent responsible for the acts of
the criminal”.
Source: Campaign website, www.johnmccain.com,
"Issues" Sep 1, 2007
Opposes restrictions on assault weapons and ammunition
types
McCain opposes
restrictions on so-called "assault rifles" and voted consistently
against such bans.
McCain opposes bans
on the importation of certain types of ammunition magazines and has voted
against such limitations.
McCain believes
that banning ammunition is just another way to undermine Second Amendment
rights. He voted against an amendment that would have banned many of the most
commonly used hunting cartridges
on the spurious grounds that they were "armor-piercing."
Source: Campaign website, www.johnmccain.com,
"Issues" Sep 1, 2007
Calls for GOP "tolerance" of closing gun show
loopholes
A recall petition drive was started in June 2001 by the Arizona far-right. The petition complained that McCain was disloyal to the President, especially in voting against his tax bill, and it also complained about his proposal to close the gun show loophole. One form of the petition accused him of backing "dishonest and treasonist" legislation. Several of the petitions were posted at gun shops.
The NRA was particularly
angry with him for its being included in his campaign finance reform bill, and
for trying to tighten a loophole in the gun control laws. McCain himself was
sufficiently concerned that he sent a 4-page, single-spaced letter to every GOP
precinct leader in Arizona. He called for "greater tolerance" for
Republicans "who occasionally dissent" from one or another majority
position held by a party.
He explained his vote
against Bush's tax cut and talked about the need to build up national defense,
about his work on the patients' bill of rights, and the gun show loophole.
Source: Citizen McCain, by Elizabeth Drew, p.
78-79 May
7, 2002
Ban cheap guns; require safety locks; for gun show
checks
McCain favors outlawing
cheaply made handguns called Saturday night specials, and favors mandating
safety locks on certain guns. He said he is intrigued by new technology that
electronically identifies a person handling a gun, allowing only the owner to
fire it. McCain rallied Senate Republicans behind a Democratic measure
requiring background checks at gun shows.
Source: Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press Aug 17, 1999
Supports ban on certain assault weapons
McCain said he was open
to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details.
Source: Los Angeles Times, “McCain Calls for Hearings” Aug
17, 1999
Voted against Brady Bill & assault weapon ban
McCain spoke generally
of the need for some tighter gun controls on hardened criminals and children.
In Congress, he pressured his colleagues to require background checks for
buyers at guns shows, and he supported a requirement that trigger locks be sold
with handguns. But the Senator opposed the two major gun-control measures of
recent years, the 1994 ban on several types of assault weapons and the Brady
Bill, which required a 5-day waiting period for handgun purchases.
Source: Todd S. Purdum, New York Times, p. A14 Aug 17,
1999
Guns are a problem, but so are violent web sites &
videos
If you want to take
every gun in and dump it in the ocean, I’ll still take you to a Web site where
it teaches children how to build a pipe bomb. And I’ll take you to a Web site
where the worst kind of hate language that is terribly offensive to all of us
exists. I can take you to a video game being sold to our children where the
object of the game is to kill police. I understand the importance of weapons,
but to define that as being the major cause [of youth violence], there’s a
whole lot of causes.
Source: Todd S. Purdum, New York Times, p. A14 Aug 17,
1999
Punish criminals who abuse 2nd Amendment rights
We need to focus on
halting the spread of violent crime and punishing violent criminals who abuse
their Second Amendment rights, while preserving those same rights for
law-abiding Americans.
Source: www.mccain2000.com/ “Press Releases” May 10, 1999
Youth Violence Prevention Act restricts guns for kids
McCain has introduced
the “Youth Violence Prevention Act.”
The legislation would:
prevent juveniles from
illegal access to weapons and punish those who would assist them in doing so
prohibit juveniles who
commit acts of gun violence from purchasing guns in the future
sentence juveniles
convicted of violent crimes under adult guidelines
and punish juveniles who
illegally carry or use handguns in schools.
Source: www.mccain2000.com/ “Press Releases” May 10, 1999
Repeal existing gun restrictions; penalize criminal use
· McCain supports the following principles regarding
gun issues:
· Repeal federal restrictions on the purchase and
possession of firearms by law-abiding citizens.
· Favor allowing citizens to carry concealed
firearms.
· McCain says, “There are penalties for criminals who
use firearms.”
Source: Project Vote Smart, 1998, www.vote-smart.org Jul
2, 1998
Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits against gun
manufacturers.
A bill to prohibit civil
liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers,
distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages,
injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by
others. Voting YES would:
· Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who
knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or
drug-trafficking crime
· Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in
death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
· Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil
liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the
action was brought
· Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery
of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for
violations
· Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and
dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or
safety devices
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill
S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005
Voted YES on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers
for gun violence.
Vote to pass a bill that
would block certain civil lawsuits against manufacturers, distributors, dealers
and importers of firearms and ammunition, mainly those lawsuits aimed at making
them liable for gun violence. In this bill, trade groups would also be
protected. The bill would call for the dismissal of pending lawsuits against
the gun industry. The exception would be lawsuits regarding a defect in a
weapon or ammunition. It also would provide a 10-year reauthorization of the
assault weapons ban, which is set to expire in September 2004. The bill would
increase the penalties for gun-related violent or drug trafficking crimes,
which have not resulted in death, to a minimum of 15 years imprisonment. The
bill calls for criminal background checks on all firearm transactions at gun
shows where at least 75 guns are sold. Exemptions would be made available for
dealers selling guns from their homes as well as members-only gun swaps and
meets carried out by nonprofit hunting clubs.
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill
S.1805/H.R.1036 ; vote number 2004-30 on Mar 2, 2004
Voted NO on background checks at gun shows.
Require background
checks on all firearm sales at gun shows.
Status: Amendment Agreed
to Y)50; N)50; VP decided YES
Reference: Lautenberg Amendment #362; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-134 on May 20, 1999
Voted YES on more penalties for gun & drug
violations.
The Hatch Amendment
would increase mandatory penalties for the illegal transfer or use of firearms,
fund additional drug case prosecutors, and require background check on
purchasers at gun shows. [A YES vote supports stricter penalties].
Status: Amendment Agreed
to Y)48; N)47; NV)5
Reference: Hatch Amendment #344; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-118 on May 14, 1999
Voted YES on loosening license & background checks
at gun shows.
Vote to table or kill a
motion to require that all gun sales at gun shows be completed by federally
licensed gun dealers. Also requires background checks to be completed on buyers
and requires gun show promoters to register with the Treasury.
Reference: Bill S.254 ; vote number 1999-111 on May 11, 1999
Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without
trigger locks.
Vote to table [kill] an
amendment to make it unlawful for gun dealers to sell handguns without
providing trigger locks. Violation of the law would result in civil penalties,
such as suspension or revocation of the dealer's license, or a fine.
Reference: Bill S 2260 ; vote number 1998-216 on Jul 21, 1998
Ban gun registration & trigger lock law in
Washington DC.
McCain co-sponsored
banning gun registration & trigger lock law in Washington DC
· Nothing in any provision of law shall authorize the
Mayor, or any governmental authority of the District of Columbia, to prohibit
possessing firearms by a person who is allowed to possess firearms under
federal law.
· Denies the District any authority to enact laws or
regulations that discourage or eliminate the private ownership or use of
firearms.
· Repeals the ban on semiautomatic weapons.
· Repeals the District's registration requirement for
possession of firearms.
· Repeals the trigger lock law.
· Maintains the current ban on the possession and
control of a sawed-off shotgun, machine gun, or short-barreled rifle.
· Eliminates criminal penalties for possessing an
unregistered firearm.
· Specifies exceptions to the prohibition against
carrying concealed weapons in the District.
Source:
D.C. Personal Protection Act (H.R.1399/S.1001) 2007-S1001 on Mar 27, 2007
Allow firearms in National
Parks
McCain co-sponsored
allowing firearms in National Parks Bars the promulgation or enforcement of any
regulation that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm, including an
assembled or functional firearm, in any unit of the National Park System or the
National Wildlife Refuge System if:
·
the individual is not
otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm; and
·
the possession of the
firearm is in compliance with the law of state in which the unit is located.
Source:
Protecting Americans from Violent Crime Act (S.2619&HR.5434) 2008-S2619 on Feb 8, 2008

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